“Holy Laughter” at a Rodney Howard Browne event
Today in the modern church a big storm is brewing, and with it we’re seeing:
- More direct revelation and extra-biblical experiences
- More signs and wonders/mysticism
- More merging and melding of religions and movements
- More entertainment-driven services
- More New Age conferences blending with “Christian” leadership
- More false christs
Warren Smith is the author of the book, “Another Jesus” Calling: How False Christs are Entering the Church through Contemplative Prayer.” Is a must read. He is also the author of several pamphlets available at Lighthouse Trails, including the brand new, False Revival Coming Part I: Holy Laughter or Strong Delusion? We’ve reposted it with permission, and it is available for purchase now at Lighthouse Trails Publishing.
One of the names you’ll hear mentioned on today’s program is Rodney Howard Browne, considered the father of the “Holy Laughter Movement.”
Here is a very disturbing clip of what this looks and sounds like:
Browne has not repented, nor has he gone away. For the past several summers (and this July as well), he has been a political darling of the New Apostolic Reformation and Washington D.C. Daughters of the American Revolution event called, CELEBRATE AMERICA DC, with Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, and Michelle Bachman. “We came here on assignment. God told me to go to the United States,” Browne said. “He said, ‘I am sending you as a missionary to the United States.’” He said there is a coming revival and the church must get ready. Source:
Other research articles mentioned today:
- David Wilkerson Blasts Faith Preachers in Sermon
- Jesus Culture Conference Sacramento: One encounter changes everything
- Empower 21 George Wood Bethel
- AG’s George O. Wood Replaces Jack Hayford as Empowered21’s Co-Chair
- Planetary Pentecost Barbara Marx Hubbard
- What is real biblical revival? (Got Questions)
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Let me encourage the Church not to allow these people who have fabricated their own works cause you to become jaded towards the genuine work of God. Jesus said that His sheep would know His voice, so, don't allow someone like this man to deafen you to what the Lord is saying to His Church.
What man? Calvin? Who ever the guy is from Armanianism? Again, read the scriptures and quit parroting what someone else says they say.
Rapture? Yes. But there is an antichrist coming first. See 2 Thessalonians 2; 1-4 You can't get around it. The rise of the antichrist will be entangled with the false revival, aka height of the apostasy. True Christians will be persecuted during that time. Sort of like the nazi era.
In 2Thessalonians Paul is not teaching that the rapture can’t happen until Antichrist is revealed; rather, he teaches that the “day of the Lord” cannot be present because the Antichrist has yet to be revealed. Paul does not teach that the Antichrist is revealed at the time he sets himself in the temple, but at the time the restrainer is removed (2Th 7- 8). The Day of the Lord is not the same as “our being gathered together to him”. Grammatically there is no way around it. Gathered/Day of the Lord: Two subjects. This alone does not (nor am I trying) prove a “pre-trib” rapture. I’m just saying your conclusion of antichrist first is not a “silver bullet” to rapture first, anymore than the “last trump” argument is. We still have the Bema-seat, the marriage supper and the sheep and goats to deal with. I believe the best explanation of “our blessed hope” is a pre-trib rapture, before the Lamb, the Lord Jesus Christ, executes His throne rights, and He begins to peel those seals off, and every time He peels a seal off, boom, we get another judgment on earth. And He says okay, that’s enough for number one, now I’m going to try number two; boom, He breaks the second seal, bam, all kinds of things happen all over the earth. Okay, that’s done, let’s go to three, boom, He breaks the third seal. So that’s what triggers all these judgments of the tribulation.
Um, there is no bema seat judgement, that's more of the apostasy teaching. The greek word bema is used multiple times in the New Testament, including Jesus being before one. THe "bema seat' has never been a good place. What you refer to is another man made invention to cover the base of "why do we need to be good if we have eternal security?". Sorry no rewards, no special crowns, no eternal security. And frankly, in Matt 24 Jesus warns that for the sake of the elect those days are shortened indicating not pre-trib. I used to cling to the pre-trib rapture but now call myself pan-trib ( whatever, it all pans out)
The Meaning of the
Judgment (Bema) Seat (https://bible.org/article/doctrine-rewards-judgment-seat-bema-christ from Bible. org)
Both Romans 14:10 and 2 Corinthians 5:9 speak of the “judgment seat.” This is a translation of one Greek word, the word bema. While bema is used in the gospels and Acts of the raised platform where a Roman magistrate or ruler sat to make decisions and pass sentence (Matt. 27:19; John 19:13), its use in the epistles by Paul, because of his many allusions to the Greek athletic contests, is more in keeping with its original use among the Greeks.
This word was taken from Isthmian games where the contestants would compete for the prize under the careful scrutiny of judges who would make sure that every rule of the contest was obeyed (cf. 2 Tim. 2:5). The victor of a given event who participated according to the rules was led by the judge to the platform called the Bema. There the laurel wreath was placed on his head as a symbol of victory (cf. 1 Cor. 9:24-25).
In all of these passages, “Paul was picturing the believer as a competitor in a spiritual contest. As the victorious Grecian athlete appeared before the Bema to receive his perishable award, so the Christian will appear before Christ’s Bema to receive his imperishable award. The judge at the Bema bestowed rewards to the victors. He did not whip the losers.”2 We might add, neither did he sentence them to hard labor.
In other words, it is a reward seat and portrays a time of rewards or loss of rewards following examination, but it is not a time of punishment where believers are judged for their sins. Such would be inconsistent with the finished work of Christ on the Cross because He totally paid the penalty for our sins. Chafer and Walvoord have an excellent word on this view:
With reference to sin, Scripture teaches that the child of God under grace shall not come into judgment (John 3:18; 5:24; 6:37; Rom. 5:1; 8:1; 1 Cor. 11:32); in his standing before God, and on the ground that the penalty for all sin—past, present, and future (Col. 2:13)—has been borne by Christ as the perfect Substitute, the believer is not only placed beyond condemnation, but being in Christ is accepted in the perfection of Christ (1 Cor. 1:30; Eph. 1:6; Col. 2:10; Heb. 10:14) and loved of God as Christ is loved (John 17:23).
Again, Chafer writes concerning the Bema, “It cannot be too strongly emphasized that the judgment is unrelated to the problem of sin, that it is more for the bestowing of rewards than the rejection of failure.”
I'll try this again as it got deleted or lost in electrons, clearly the devil wants your falsehood to remain as it traps so many for him.
I really don't care what Chafer and Walvoord have to say given that they were heretics. This is another doctrine created by evil men for whom the Gospel is not sufficient in their anti-catholic quest.
John 3:18 says condemned, not judgement.
John 5:24 says condemned, not judgement.
John 6:37 says condemned, not judgement.
Romans 5:1 says justified through faith, not magic ( I don't think you wanted that one)
Romans 8:1 says condemnation, not judgement.
1Cor 11:32 says judgement now so that we will not be condemned later
So what was your point? There is no text leading to or from to indicate a guarantee of pleasantness of rewards or that the Christ's judgement seat is anything but the Throne that John speaks of, let alone a judgement preceding . Rev 20:12-15 is very clear, "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books…and each person was judged according to what he had done…If anyone's name was not found in the book of life, he was throne into the Lake of Fire. ALL we be judged at the throne.
Another thing to note is that John uses the word thronos exclusively while Paul only uses it once in Col 1:16 and that only in relationship to powers of authority not a seat. Your explanation above is more of this creating a reasonable scenario to force fit the word. Romans 14:10 speaks specifically about a judgement seat, no sports involved with the following verse that EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, and 2Cor 5:9 says nothing about a seat at all, just pleasing Him, whether in the body or out of it. As a running athlete myself I know there is no "judgement", any judgement that may come would be against a complaint that may be made, and it's the athletes that stand on the platform, not any judges. Verse 10 says "We must ALL appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each will receive what is due for the things in the body, whether good or bad." It takes man made massaging to make your doctrine.
You clearly are a worshiper of doctrine over the Bible. Sola Scriptura
Bema Seat…here: http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/is_the_bema…
Bema Seat….also here: http://www.gotquestions.org/judgment-seat-Christ….
Agree entirely !!
I tend to agree with you Victoria. I find it hard to believe we are just suddenly going to be whisked up and away from our comfortable lives here in the West…where it costs us very little to make the claim of Christianity. I think we are going to be challenged in ways we never imagined and need to be preparing ourselves to stand firm as the days get darker. If a rapture occurs, then we will be very blessed indeed. But I am not looking for it…not counting on it. I find it a distraction. I want to concentrate on growing stronger in faith and being ready whatever our future holds. It is possible we will be called upon to suffer for Christ before He comes to take us out of here. May we be found faithful whatever happens.
Falling away into Arminianism ? In 40 years I'd only heard of Arminianism a couple years ago along with calvinism. Both are wrong, although calvinism is more wrong including today's calvanist leaning doctrines. They've removed the power and giftings of the Holy Spirit and placed doctrine in the hands of men, denying the truth of the Bible while fabricating a fantasy license to sin and judgement will be on those propagators of that lie.
Well, maybe you should do some reading on these things and get better informed because reformed theology (Calvinism) has been around a very long time. Your not having 'heard' of Calvinism or the heresy of Arminianism…what does that prove or add to this discussion?
My inference is that I had never heard of the heresy of calvanism or Aminianism until recently. I didn't grow up brainwashed in doctrine so my knowledge of the salvation of grace by faith comes from the Bible through nearly 40 years of study. Catholicism has been around longer, that doesn't make it right, and as I pointed out, calvanism is the anti-catholic dogma, not the truth. As I've shown repeatedly calvinism is a man made doctrine, non-biblical. None of your partial verses have held up to scrutiny. I still want you or lyn to show how Charles Templeton and Simon Majus ( who the Bible says believed and was baptized and yet turned back to evil) fit into your calvinistic doctrine. Lyn says below that God elects SOME to eternal life, there's that predestination lie. So then, accordingly, Like those in the article, might as well have fun while you can given that you don't have any say in the matter and the outcome will be the same according to you.
I used to marvel at how so many could be raptured away without having a significant impact on the world. Then I realized not all that many will be raptured, only what I call the redeemed church. Prime candidates are the OSAS folks using the doctrine as a license to sin and then these wild experiential folks. Looking at what's happening in this country the church is soon going to be driven under ground. There's a good chance that laws such as in Canada may start here where pastors can be thrown in jail for preaching "hate". Already in Dane county, WI a pastor was convicted of criminal conspiracy to abuse for preaching that you should not withhold the rod. Church leaders are going to have to look seriously at whether their 501(c)3 is more important than standing on the Word of God.
Yet, are you not claiming the the most mystical experience of all, rapture?
How then can you pretend to make a fool of any Christian?
The Rapture is no more mystical than driving your car. It is a physical removal of the body of Christ before Daniels 70th week.
The Gadarenes called…they want their "possessed people ' back…..
Thank you for this. It is very disturbing what's going on out there. People are calling for revival without repentance all over. And it's scary. No one wants the true Jesus. Keep on keeping.
There is a rapture coming. Oh blessed hope that it is. And that's no delusion.
Amen, Sheryl, let's not lose sight of our calling to wait for our Lord from Heaven.